April 19, 1985
Court reconvened at 9:30
A.M.
“With total predictability, there was media coverage in the newspapers, radio, and television,” began Judge Stone in his welcome address to the jury. “Anybody here have any trouble following the court instructions? I assume that whatever you know about this case, you got right here in the courtroom. Anybody disagree? Let's proceed. Call your next witness, Mr. Hultman.”
Detective Price took the stand, and essentially provided continuation of Officer Meeks's testimony regarding the investigation of Damon Wells's disappearance. Hultman had Price testify that both Chris St. Pierre and Paul St. Pierre provided voluntary statements to the police.
Murdach, on cross-examination, pursued the circumstances surrounding Paul St. Pierre's statement. “Are you aware,” he asked Price, “that he requested that interview with you even though there had been a court orderâ”
“I will object to this!” Hultman was on his feet.
“âfor him to not speak to anyone without counsel present?”
“I will sustain the objection,” said the judge, “and I admonish the jurors to disregard the last question.”
Detective Price was thanked and excused. Roy Kissler took the stand and told of his adventures with Paul St. Pierre at the cabin. David Murdach questioned whyâdespite Andrew Webbs's recent recantation and acceptance of full responsibility for slashing Damon Wells's throatâKissler continued attributing confessional statements to Paul St. Pierre?
“What they didn't seem to understand,” Kissler later commented, “was that I could only tell them what I remember hearing directly from Paul St. Pierre. It doesn't matter what Andrew Webb may have said, or what he confessed to or didn't confess to. That doesn't matter as far as what I actually heard from Paul St. Pierre. Paul told me that he, Paul St. Pierre, chased down Damon Wells, cut his throat, and all that. Now, maybe Paul was bragging. Maybe he wished he had done something like that. That wouldn't be out of the question at all, but I had to testify as to what I remember Paul saying to me that day, not something that made his lawyer feel better, or the prosecution, either.”
“Have you ever,” Murdach asked Kissler, “made a statement to anyone that you would like to get back at Paul St. Pierre?”
“I haven't any reason to get back at him,” Kissler said. “What I was thinking at that point was for protection for myself and my family.” This response, however, did not answer Murdach's question. Paul St. Pierre's attorney asked it again. “The question is: have you ever made a statement that you wanted to get back at Paul St. Pierre?”
“The first few days after this incident happened, because I had nothing but his word to go on, and by the other things he said to meâ”
“You are asked,” interrupted Murdach forcefully, “have you ever made a statement that you wanted to get back at Paul St. Pierre?”
“Yes,” came Kissler's honest reply, “I have.”
Carl Hultman returned for further direct examination, requesting clarification from Kissler. “Mr. Murdach asked you if you made the statement about you wanting to get back at Paul St. Pierre. What was that statement you made?”
“OK,” said Kissler, “I talked to my minister about it.”
Neither Hultman nor Murdach pursued the issue. The prosecutor was happy the jury knew Kissler made this comment to his minister; Murdach was pleased that the jury knew Kissler admitted expressing a desire “to get back at Paul St. Pierre.”
“What that was all about,” Roy Kissler explained several years later, “is that two months after Paul St. Pierre told me about killing people, I went back up to the church and talked to the pastor. This was a different pastor than was there the first night I went into the church, so we didn't have the same relationship. I told him everything, and I told him that I was thinking of solving this problemâthe problem of Paul being a killer who obviously attempted doing to my brother what he did to Damon Wells, and who wanted to do the same thing to me. I had it all figured out how I was going to get rid of Paul St. Pierre.”
Kissler knew the neighborhood, and his plan was remarkably simple. Dressed in black, he would go behind Ericson's with a 12-gauge shotgun, throw a rock through the back window of one of their cars, and when Paul came out, a fusillade of double-barrel firepower would spell curtains to the killing spree of Paul St. Pierre. “Then I would just disappear down the alley in the middle of the night. They're up all night, anyway. It wouldn't have been too tough, I don't think, to pull off. The pastor said, âYou can't do that; you're a Christian.' I said, âYeah, I can, too.' ” The pastor insisted they pray about it, and that's exactly what they did. Prayers concluded, Roy Kissler decided that killing Paul St. Pierre was not appropriate behavior for a man who had given his life to the Lord. “Later, after the arrests,” he recalled, “that same pastor went down and talked to Paul St. Pierre at the jail. Honest. It's in the records.”
His testimony concluded, Roy Kissler stepped around the rail and signed the witness sheet. Carl Hultman asked the court to instruct the jury on how they should regard the out-of-court statements of Paul and Christopher St. Pierre. Stone agreed.
“Ladies and gentlemen, this instruction that I'm going to give you may apply to several witnesses throughout the case. The jury is instructed that out-of-court statements by one of the St. Pierres are not to be considered by you as evidence against the other one. We will now take the morning recess. You have heard only a portion of the case. You don't start to deliberate or discuss or in any way make up your mind.”
From the jury box came an unexpected interruption. “I do not understand your instruction,” said the woman.
“The jury is instructed,” repeated Stone, “that out-of-court statements by one of the St. Pierres are not to be considered by you as evidence against the other St. Pierre. Now, take the morning recess.”
When court reconvened, Detective Yerbury y began his testimony. Early in the prosecution questioning, Hultman asked Yerbury to read aloud from the signed statement given by Christopher St. Pierre on the day of his arrest.
“I would ask you then,” said Hultman, “beginning about the third paragraph of that statement, to tell us what Christopher St. Pierre told you about what had occurred with Damon Wells at the house.”
“I object,” Murdach proposed. “I would like to be outside the presence of the jury.” The jurors were again shuffled off to their anteroom while Hultman and Murdach wrestled over law and application. The essence of the disagreement was as follows: The prosecution wanted Yerbury to read selected portions of Christopher St. Pierre's statement. Paul St. Pierre's defense attorney did not want Yerbury to read any portion of the statement because it would contain remarks “out of the mouth of Christopher St. Pierre” concerning alleged illegal conduct by Paul St. Pierre.
“There is no way I can cross-examine Mr. St. Pierre, and no way I can call him to the stand for the purpose of cross-examination,” objected Murdach. “The court should not use any portion of Chris St. Pierre's statement that refers to anything of which Paul St. Pierre is accused. We will have the same problem with Paul St. Pierre's statements if he made statements about Christopher St. Pierre.”
“I agree,” said John Ladenburg, “we will have the same problem with the confession of Paul St. Pierre.” The lawyers had previously tossed around the idea of editing the various statementsâa troublesome and complex taskâand Stone agreed to at least consider the idea. “The court indicated we would have some period of talking about edits and excisions,” Ladenburg reminded the court, “and we might as well do it now. We might as well settle it all at once.”
Hultman had already marked where he wanted Yerbury to start reading, and where he wanted him to stop. Murdach and Ladenburg did not want Yerbury to read anything at all; the prosecution completely disagreed. “The state's position is that Christopher St. Pierre doesn't say anything about Paul that Paul doesn't admit by himself, and Paul says very little about Chris, and certainly Chris does not admit about himself. It's the intention of the state that both statements will be testified to by Detective Yerbury, so there is no unbalance created by only one statement coming in.”
“The fact here,” Murdach said in opposition, “is that Mr. Paul St. Pierre's statement is of questionable ground. I realize that in a previous hearing, the court allowed the statement to be introduced as evidence. However, when I say the statement is of questionable ground, I'm referring to Paul St. Pierre's statement to the police being given in defiance of an order by Judge Healy. If the appellate court holds Mr. Paul St. Pierre's statement in error, we would then have a statement that is improperly introduced. I think to proceed cautiously in this matter would be better than to leap into possible theory issues on appeal.”
“The suggestion was made by Mr. Murdach,” Stone later commented, “that this judge should make rulings in anticipation of what the appellate court might do. I think that is the wrong approach. The appellate court regularly says that they won't rule until the trial court rulesââYou do your thinking in the trial court, conduct the trial, and then we will make a ruling and see if the trial judge did it right'âthis judge has to go first.”
“The court,” Murdach argued, “instructed the jury that a statement by one St. Pierre cannot be taken as evidence against the other St. Pierre. One juror asked the court to repeat that remark, and I observed her writing that down. If the jury follows that court instruction, they're not even going to consider Christopher St. Pierre's statement against Paul St. Pierre, so why admit it, and why not delete it, and why not void any reference to it?”
When Carl Hultman insisted that there was no possibility of prejudice against the defendants if the statements, even judiciously edited, were admitted as evidence, Murdach instantly disagreed. “What greater prejudice could there be,” asked the defense counsel, “than not to be able to cross-examine the person who makes a statement against you? For the judge to allow the statement in, and at the same time tell the jury that it has a duty to disregard it, what's the point? Why put it in?”
“For the record,” said Judge Stone, “the court has previously ruled and made comments on the taking of the statement by Paul St. Pierre which was, at least on the surface, in direct violation of a judge's order. I see no reason to rehash that. I already made a ruling on it. Certainly counsel has hit a subject close to the judge's heart when he said we should be cautious. We should be cautious in each of our rulings. The judge is reminded that there are not risk-free rulings. In this case, every ruling I make has risk. There is a great likelihood of appeal in this case.”
Mutual agreement and cooperative like-mindedness were not characteristics attributed to the trio of trial attorneys gathered in Judge Stone's courtroom. For this reason alone, although other justifications were available, Judge Stone declined any editing process.
“I find that the hazard of editing a statement where anyone can second-guess the judgeââYou should take this out and should take that out'âand the hazard of editing is just as great, or perhaps greater today, than the specter of appellate review. The court will decline to edit other than the starting and stopping point. We start and stop, but the ruling the court has to make now,” concluded Judge Stone. “I decline to edit the statement of Christopher Leo St. Pierre.”
Awaiting the jury's return, Hultman advised the court that Damon Wells's mother and Mrs. St. Pierre were both in the courtroom. None of the attorneys wanted these women excluded from testifying at the penalty phase on the grounds that they had attended the trial phase. As all attorneys were in agreement, Stone simply said, “Mrs. St. Pierre and Mrs. Wells are welcome here.”
Detective Robert Yerbury resumed his testimony. First he read aloud from Christopher St. Pierre's statement, then from Paul St. Pierre's. John Ladenburg had no difficulty on cross-examination establishing that Christopher St. Pierre was completely cooperative with Detectives Yerbury and Price, and that the information he provided was accurate and offered of his own free will.
In his opening remarks at the trial's beginning, Ladenburg had told the jury that Damon Wells went to Salmon Beach willingly, without being coerced or forced. Ladenburg returned to this theme when questioning Detective Yerbury. “Did you ever ask Chris specifically if Mr. Damon Wells objected to going along or if he was forced?”
“Well, I didn't see anything in the statement saying Damon Wells was taken at gunpoint,” answered Yerbury. “He was unconscious. I assumed he could not make any kind of statement one way or other. There was no reason to ask that question as he told me that Damon Wells was unconscious.”
The pace picked up, and the prosecution's next witnesses testified free of incident, objections, or interruptions. Sergeant Parkhurst of the Tacoma Police Department described in full detail the recovery of Damon Wells's body from the grave site in Elbe, the subsequent retrieval of the alleged murder weapon (Paul St. Pierre's Gerber knife), and the search of Salmon Beach, where Damon Wells's tennis shoes were eventually discovered.