Authors: Jo Walton
What I can't see is why Plato's so obsessed with feeling eros and suppressing it. What's wrong with agape where you're passionate about the other person and they don't move you that way? Or where you're both passionate together about some shared obsession? Can't that be agape? And what's wrong with a relationship where you're passionate about the other person and they want you too and sex is all part of it? What's the problem with adding sex to agape, in other words? What's the benefit of abstinence?
Well, according to Plato, it makes your soul grow wings, and cuts down on your necessary reincarnations. But that's nonsense. Take it from me: it doesn't. You're going to be reincarnated steadily throughout time no matter what you do. You'll choose lives where you can learn to increase your excellence, and that's how things gradually improve for everyone everywhere. There's no end point to time, it just keeps on unscrolling. It doesn't stop. And though we live on Olympos and outside time, we're limited in what we can do about those things. Athene had no choice about setting things up so that bodies and souls went back where they came from at death. She could snatch Cicero away while the assassins were knocking on his door and send him back to the same moment after he'd lived out his natural lifespan in the city, but she couldn't start messing about with where souls were supposed to be. And before you start worrying about the children born in the city, souls come out of Lethe. The children born there had souls from that time. (There. Now you can't say you were reading all this in the hope of divine revelation and only discovered way too much about my personal issues.)
Even without affecting reincarnation, I suppose there can be a benefit to Platonic agape because sex can be a distraction. Lusting after someone can prevent you from focusing on how wonderful they are, because fulfilling the lust is what you think you want. Focusing on that without any desire getting in the way is what I think Plato meant when he talked about the lover wanting to increase the excellence of their beloved. You don't want anything from them except for them to exist and you to see them sometimes and talk to them, and maybe for them to like you back. But that only works if you don't feel the lust, not if you feel it and suppress it.
Have I totally contradicted myself? I
said
I didn't understand agape.
I respected Simmea. I liked her. I needed her friendship. I knew she was in love with me, so in a way that made me the beloved if you wanted to think of it in those terms. Plato was always talking about two men, and everyone else who had written about it and considered men and women always makes the man the lover and the woman the beloved, but there's no reason it has to be like that. Looking at it from that way round, it meant that
she
wanted to increase
my
excellence, which of course she did, always.
Anyway, I cared about Simmea. I would have gone to a great deal of trouble to avoid hurting her. If she hadn't been pregnant that night on the wall I'd have mated with her then, not because I lusted for her but because she lusted for me and I could have given her something she wanted. I did feel peculiar about her mating with other people, and specifically having somebody else's baby. I was afraid the other people would hurt her, and I wanted to protect her. And I felt it was perfectly fineâindeed better, as I didn't want herâthat we didn't have sex; but if she was having sex with anyone it ought to be me. Also, I was going to ask Athene to make sure nobody even considered exposing her baby. If she was going to go through all that, there ought to be a result worth having. Even with Nikias, whose scansion was as heavy as lead. And I'd decided that her next baby would definitely be mine. That would be a hero worth having!
Some of these feelings were not ones I would have had without being incarnate. Most of them weren't, in fact, because if I had all my powers I wouldn't have needed her in the same way, and I might never have put in the time to come to know her. I needed her because I was incarnate and she was helping me so much with that.
We've established, I think, that what Plato knew about love and real people could have been written on a fingernail paring. Look how well his arrangements for having “wives and children in common” were going. Practically nobody was comfortable with it, and almost everybody was violating it in some way or other. We had long-term couples, and dramatic breakups, and casual sex, and cautious dating. We just had it all in secret. The masters either didn't know or turned a blind eye.
(And before I leave the subject of Platonic love, you remember the bit in the
Symposium
where Socrates reports Diotima's conversations with him about love? Do you picture them side by side in bed with the covers pulled up to their waists? I always do.)
A few days after the conversation on the wall, Klio, Simmea, Sokrates and I went back to the robot recharging station after dinner one evening. This trip was Klio's idea. She wanted Sokrates to talk to the robots without Lysias and she wanted to tell him some things. She'd talked to him and suggested it, and he'd said we should go too. I think he'd also suggested bringing Kebes and she'd put her foot down on that one, because she half-believed that Kebes might have been hoaxing everyone with the flowers, and she didn't want him to know any more about the robots than he did already.
At that point, I had no idea whether or not the robots were sentient. I'd assumed they weren't, because otherwise what was the point of having them instead of slaves? But I didn't know where Athene got them from, and certainly there were times way up there that had sentient robots. We'd never have colonized Titan without them, and even Mars would have been hard work. And I realized vaguely that there must have been a time when robots were just becoming sentient, and these particular robots might have come from there, if Athene had chosen the best ones that weren't sentient, which would be just like her.
I didn't go and ask her, although I thought about it. The reason I didn't was that I enjoyed seeing Sokrates tackling a puzzle, and it was more fun when I didn't already know the answer. With many of the available puzzlesâthe nature of the universe, the purposes of the masters, Athene's plansâI did know the answers. Watching him take on one where I really didn't know was fascinating. It was adorable to see him introduced to the concept of zero. But watching him go after potential artificial intelligence was priceless. That alone would have been worth all the time I spent in the city.
Sokrates had written down the serial numbers of all the robots that were present the first night he went in, and he checked them all. Some of them were different, and he noted them. He greeted each one and asked it a few questions. This took about an hour. Then Klio pointed out the ones that refused to move, and he tried talking to them. He asked them questions and got Klio to translate the questions into English.
“Why do you want to stay in here and not go out to work? Do you like your work? Do you like the feeding station? What do you want to do?” He went down the row, speaking like that to each one, varying what he said from time to time.
“How do you give them orders?” he asked Klio.
“Well, we can give them verbal orders for simple things, things they already understand. But if it's something new and complicated, we use a key.”
“A key?” Sokrates said. “What sort of key?”
“I'll show you,” she said. She went off to a locker at the back of the room and came back with a box containing little chips of metal and coloured plastic about as small as they could be and have human fingers pick them upâvery similar to the ones I'd seen when I'd been on Mars for the concert that time.
“And you show the key to the worker?” Sokrates asked. “And then it obeys?”
“Essentially,” Klio said. “It goes in this panel.”
She touched a panel on the robot's side, which slid open. She put the key into a recessed slot.
“You put it directly into its liver,” Sokrates said, turning to me. “Never mind your thought about head injuries. The liver is indeed the seat of intelligence!”
Klio laughed, then stopped laughing. “I suppose it is about where a liver would be⦔
It was. I blinked.
“Let's not take this as evidence one way or the other until we know whether the workers are intelligent,” Simmea said, wisely. “What does the key do?”
“It tells the worker that we need it to go out and look after the goats. It already understands what that meansâhow to watch for wolves, and how to milk the goats and make cheese and so on. The key tells it the priority. I could have given the order out loud in English to this one. But if I had one who had never looked after goats, I'd have to use the key, and the key would tell it what to do and also what it means.”
“Those are clever keys,” Sokrates said, running his fingers through them. “Do the colors tell you which orders they hold?”
“Yes, that's right,” Klio said. “And if the worker won't take the order from the key, like these, eventually we swap out their ⦠liver. Their memory. But we can't do that so much, because we're low on new memories.”
“They refuse to work and you punish them by removing their memory?” Sokrates asked.
“It's not
punishment
. They're notâwe don't think of them as being aware.” She looked guilty. “If they are, then we have behaved very badly to them.”
“I think it would be better if you stopped removing memories for the time being,” Sokrates said.
“There's so little proof! And Lysias, who is the one who really needs to make that decision, won't want to look at it. He distrusts Kebes, not without reason. And if he has to accept them as free-willed beings then he'll have to accept a lot of guilt for the memories he has removed.” Klio looked distressed now.
Sokrates nodded gravely. “He will indeed. It's sad. But it's not as sad as removing their memories. We might beat a recalcitrant slave, but that would heal.”
“I think you should talk to Lysias. And after that I think you should talk to the Chamber.”
“I agree,” Sokrates said. “But meanwhile, I should talk to these poor workers.” He looked at me and Simmea. “You can do likewise. Go and ask them my questions. Let me know if there's a response.”
“In Greek?” I asked.
“Greek, or Greek and then English,” he replied, absently.
“You know we don't know English,” Simmea said.
“I know you don't,” Sokrates confirmed, looking only at her. Of course he guessed that I did, and didn't want to expose me. Dear old Sokrates. He always was extremely good about that.
“Should we try Latin?” she asked.
“I don't think there's any point,” Klio said. “They won't be programmed in Latin, and they won't have heard it enough to have had any chance of picking it up.”
“How could they have picked up Greek?” I asked, genuinely curious.
“Well, they can parse English, so they must have language circuits. Greek is a very clear and logical language, and it's part of the same language family as English. So is Latin, incidentally; that's why
non
and
no
are similar. So with hearing it so much I can just about believe that they might be able to figure out how to understand Greek.”
“Why did it reply in English then?” Simmea asked.
Klio shrugged. “It shouldn't have been able to reply at all. The proper mode of interaction is that somebody gives it a command and then it carries it out to the best of its ability, pausing to recharge itself here when it needs to.”
“They run on electricity?” Sokrates said. “Like the lights and the heat and cooling in the library?”
“They really are machines, whatever else they might be,” Klio said.
We went up and down the rows, checking numbers and asking the workers questions. They were the same questions, Sokrates's questions. I longed for one of the workers to answer, especially after my body grew as tired of it as my mind. Eventually Simmea yawned so loudly that Klio heard, and sent us both to bed.
Walking along with Simmea discussing what we'd just been doing was one of the basic patterns of our interaction, one of the ways that our relationship functioned, so of course we did that. “Do you believe now that they might be aware?” she asked.
“I'm reserving judgement until there's more evidence,” I said.
“What do you think the Chamber will say?” She stretchedâher pregnancy was giving her odd back pains. I put my arm around her, which she always found comforting.
“They'll agree with Lysias that Kebes did it, even though that's definitely not the case. But if he really pushes it, then I think if it's the full Chamber they'll have to agree with Sokrates. I mean, some of them are irritated with him about this and that, but he's Sokrates, after all. They're here because they love Plato. And Plato revered Sokratesâthough he clearly built his own version of him to revere after a while.” I smiled. “I think that's funny, don't you?”
“I've been thinking that for ages,” she said. “Do you think he still wants to tear it all down?”
“Sokrates? The city? Yes. Why do you ask that now?”
I could see her face clearly in the light of a sconce above a sleeping house we were passing. She looked abstracted, and then as we moved and the shadows danced she looked maniacal. “I think the workers could be a lever for that,” she said. “I do wish one of them had answered though!”
But it was months before they communicated with us again.
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For the first four months I was queasy in the mornings. In the next four I grew huge, which made sleeping uncomfortable and walking a misery. I also suffered horribly from heartburn, which could be relieved only by a tisane of elderflowers. It was the hottest part of the year, the part where Demeter threatens to burn up the world unless Persephone is returned to her. Klymene showed me how to adjust my kiton, and Maia gave me a harness to stop my newly swollen breasts from chafing. I sweated more than I ever had, and was happy only in the sea. I couldn't eat in the mornings and was ravenous by mid-afternoon. I craved cheese and fruit.