Authors: David E. Murphy
have to ask for the right to fight our common foe?’’
Although the conference was scheduled to resume on Monday, Au-
gust 21, this was the last of any serious discussions. Voroshilov looked at
Ponomarev with a bitter smile and said, ‘ We’re pretty bad diplomats.’’
Ponomarev ended his description of the event with this observation, which
remains to this day the Soviet version of what happened: ‘‘The Soviet dele-
gation did everything for the success of the negotiations. However, the
efforts of the representatives of England and France came to this: under
cover of these Moscow negotiations concluding a perfidious deal with Fas-
cist Germany and compelling her to move against the east. For the sake of
this, they would have gone for any deal with the Fascists.’’6
The French attempted over the weekend to persuade the Poles to agree
to the passage of Soviet troops in the event of a German invasion. They
failed. The talks did resume on August 21 but they soon adjourned as it
appeared that Voroshilov was well aware of the futile French approach to
the Poles. The same day, however, Stalin, having received assurance from
Hitler that there would be a secret protocol to the nonaggression pact that
would likely grant him the concessions he had sought in Poland, the Bal-
tic, Finland, and Romania, wrote to him agreeing to the pact and express-
ing willingness to receive Foreign Minister Ribbentrop on August 23 in
Moscow.
The weekend of August 18–20 had been a busy one for Stalin. He had
decided to negotiate a nonaggression pact with Hitler and give up on the
Anglo-French military talks. He had never expected much from them any-
way, and the inferior quality of the representatives and the limitations of
their military resources convinced him he had been right. Besides, he
probably knew that some elements in the British government, working
through Chamberlain’s confidante, Sir Horace Wilson, were still trying to
double-cross the Poles and make a deal with Hitler.7 What were Stalin’s
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thoughts over that fateful weekend? Were they confined to expectations
that he would recover those portions of Belorussia and Ukraine that had
been under Polish rule, gain German acquiescence in obtaining Bessara-
bia from Romania, and get Hitler’s agreement on Soviet primacy in the
Baltic States? Or did he revert to long-held Leninist views that the capital-
ists/imperialists would ultimately exhaust themselves in wars, thus paving
the way for revolutionary socialism in the industrialized countries? Ac-
cording to Churchill, the decision to enter into the nonaggression pact
with Germany was made at a Politburo meeting on Saturday, August 19,
1939. In addition to the Politburo, the leaders of the Comintern were also
present. In late 1994, a Russian translation of a French version of the
speech that Stalin purportedly made at the August 19 meeting was pub-
lished in Moscow.8
Here is an English translation of that Russian text:
The question of war or peace has entered a critical phase for us. If we
conclude a treaty of mutual assistance with France and Great Brit-
ain, Germany will give up on Poland and begin to find a ‘‘modus
vivendi’’ with the Western powers. War will be prevented but in the
future events can become dangerous for the USSR. If we accept the
proposal of Germany to sign a nonaggression pact with her, she will,
of course, attack Poland and the intervention of France and England
in the war will become inevitable. Western Europe will be exposed to
serious unrest and disorders. Under these conditions we will have
many chances to remain on the sidelines in the conflict and we can
hope for an advantageous entry into the war.
The experience of the last twenty years shows that in peacetime
it is impossible to have a communist movement in Europe strong
enough to permit a Bolshevik party to seize power. The dictatorship
of that party will become possible only as the result of a major war.
We will make our choice and it is clear. We must accept the German
proposal and politely send the Anglo-French mission back. The first
advantage we can derive from this is the destruction of Poland up to
the approaches to Warsaw, including Ukrainian Galicia.
Germany will grant us complete freedom of action in the Baltic
countries and will not object to the return of Bessarabia to the USSR.
She is ready to concede to us a zone of influence in Romania, Bul-
garia, and Hungary. There remains an open question tied to Yugo-
slavia. . . . At the same time we must foresee the consequences that
may arise from the defeat, as well as the victory, of Germany. In the
case of her defeat, the Sovietization of Germany becomes inevitable
and a communist government will be created. We must not forget
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that the Sovietization of Germany will be in great danger if it results
from the defeat of Germany in a short war. England and France will
still be sufficiently strong to capture Berlin and destroy Soviet Ger-
many. And we will be in no condition to come to the aid of our
Bolshevik comrades in Germany.
Thus, our task consists of ensuring that Germany can carry on
the war as long as possible in order that a tired and exhausted En-
gland and France will not be in any condition to defeat a Sovietized
Germany. Adhering to a position of neutrality and awaiting its hour,
the USSR will provide assistance to present-day Germany, furnish-
ing her with raw materials and food products. It goes without saying,
of course, that our aid cannot exceed a certain level in order that we
not harm our economy and weaken the might of our army.
At the same time we must carry out an active communist propa-
ganda campaign, particularly in the Anglo-French bloc and prin-
cipally in France. We must be prepared for a situation whereby in
that country in wartime, the party will be forced to give up legal
activities and go underground. We know that such work will demand
many sacrifices, but our French comrades will not question this. In
the first place, their tasks will be the disintegration and demoraliza-
tion of the army and police. If this preparatory work is carried out
satisfactorily, the security of Soviet Germany will be assured and this
will make possible the Sovietization of France.
For the realization of these plans it is necessary that the war
last as long as possible, and it is in this direction that we must con-
centrate all the forces that we possess in Western Europe and the
Balkans.
Let us now examine a second possibility, the victory of Germany.
Some hold to the opinion that this would pose a serious danger for
us. There is a grain of truth in this view, but it would be a mistake to
believe that this danger is as close and great as many imagine it. If
Germany is victorious, it will emerge from the war too exhausted to
begin an armed conflict with the USSR for at least ten years.
Her main concern will be to maintain control over defeated
France and England with the intention of preventing their rehabili-
tation. On the other hand, a victorious Germany will have enormous
territories at her disposal and for many years she will be busy ‘‘ex-
ploiting them’’ and establishing German regimes there. It is obvious
that Germany will be too busy in other areas to turn against us. And
there is still another thing that will serve our security. In a defeated
France the French Communist Party will always be very strong. A
communist revolution will inevitably take place, and we can use this
situation to come to the aid of France and make her our ally. Later all
nations having come under the ‘‘protection’’ of a victorious Germany
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will become our allies. We will have a broad field of action for the
development of a world revolution.
Comrades! It is in the interests of the USSR, motherland of the
workers, that a war break out between the Reich and the capitalist
Anglo-French bloc. One must do everything to ensure that the war
lasts as long as possible in order to exhaust both sides. It is pre-
cisely for this reason that we must agree to the pact proposed by
Germany and work for the goal of having the war, once declared, last
for the longest possible time. We must strengthen propaganda ac-
tivity in the warring countries in order to be ready for the time when
the war ends.
Sometime after August 19, the French news agency Havas, published
excerpts from the speech. On November 30, 1939, the official party news-
paper,
Pravda,
printed a letter from Stalin on the Havas release:
The editor of
Pravda
has put the following question to Comrade
Stalin: What is Comrade Stalin’s reaction to the message issued by
the Havas agency on ‘‘Stalin’s speech’’ allegedly made by him in the
Politburo on August 19, at which ideas were supposedly advanced to
the effect that ‘‘the war must be continued for as long as is needed to
exhaust the belligerent countries’’?
Comrade Stalin has sent the following answer:
This report issued by the Havas agency, like many more of its
messages, is nonsense. I, of course, cannot know in precisely which
nightclub these lies were fabricated. But no matter how many lies
the gentlemen of the Havas news agency tell, they cannot deny that:
a. it was not Germany that attacked France and Britain but
France and Britain that attacked Germany, thereby taking on them-
selves responsibility for the present war;
b. after hostilities began, Germany made peace proposals to
France and Britain, while the Soviet Union openly supported these
German peace proposals, for it considered and continues to con-
sider that only as early as possible an end to the war can bring
relief . . . to the condition of all countries and all peoples.
c. the ruling circles in Britain and France rejected out of hand
both the German peace proposals and the Soviet Union’s efforts to
end the war as quickly as possible. Such are the facts. What can the
nightclub politicians of the Havas agency provide to counter these
facts? J. Stalin9
How Havas obtained the text of this speech is not known, but the most
likely avenue would have been elements of the French Communist Party
unwilling to accept the Soviet-Nazi rapprochement and seeking a way to
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embarrass Stalin. They would have had access to a French translation
of the speech since translations were the normal order of business for
the Executive Committee of the Communist International. It could be
claimed, of course, that the speech was a fabrication. Stalin’s reaction in
Pravda
suggests the Havas release deeply irritated him; the article omits
the word
Poland
entirely. As for German ‘‘peace proposals’’ supported by
the Soviet Union, Stalin’s concern in the first several days of September
was not peace but the speed of the Wehrmacht’s advance, the collapse of
Polish resistance, and whether the Red Army could occupy its promised
slice of Polish territory in Belorussia and Ukraine before the Germans took
it over.
The principal issue arising from the language of the apparent Au-
gust 19, 1939, speech is not how Havas got it but whether it reflected
Stalin’s innermost thoughts on ‘‘the question of war or peace.’’ I believe it
does and my belief is buttressed by the comments Stalin made on Septem-
ber 7, 1939, in the presence of Georgy Dimitrov, Molotov, and Andrei A.
Zhdanov and recorded by Dimitrov in his diary. They parallel the state-
ments contained in the August 19 speech. Consider this: ‘‘A war is on
between two groups of capitalist countries . . . for the redivision of the
world, for the domination of the world. We see nothing wrong in their
having a good fight and weakening each other. It would be fine if at the
hands of Germany the position of the richest capitalist countries (espe-
cially England) were shaken.’’ Or this: ‘‘The position of Communists in
power is different from the position of Communists in the opposition. We
are the masters in our own house. Communists . . . in the opposition are in
the opposition; there the bourgeoisie is master. We can maneuver, pit one
side against the other to set them fighting with each other as fiercely as
possible.’’ In the remainder of his comments Stalin laid out the reasons for
abandoning the Popular Front, explained why he decided not to continue
negotiations with the French and English, and outlined the slogans to
guide the working class in their fight against ‘‘the bosses of capitalist
countries . . . waging war for their own imperialist interests.’’ In September